I'm going to try to respond to things directed at me, and/or other things that are worthy. If I miss something I apologize, and if you really want a response, please bring it up again.
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Have you ever seen anything good come from homosexuality, abortion or unmarried sex? No. Nothing but problems. |
Yes, I have seen lots of good come from homosexuality and unmarried sex. Broadly... "happiness" and "love".
And yes, there are instances when even abortion is benefitial to involved parties (if the baby would have birth defects, or if the mother was raped and/or the pregnancy threatens her life), though I intentionally omitted abortion because I understand the opposing side and it is extremely valid. So I would like to avoid debating this here in this thread... and I will concede to any points you want to make regarding abortion.
Let me flip this around on you. What "problems" are you referring to that came from homosexuality? I can't think of a single one.
@disch Galileo was hindered by the Catholic church which has always listened to tradition rather than God |
I've been meaning to speak of religiosity as a whole and not specifically about Christianity, though I have been explicitly saying Christianity, which is erroneous on my part. I apologize.
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Scientific development was not at all hindered by Christianity. It mostly helped |
I have already come up with 2 examples of where scientific progress was impeded by religious impositions. Can you please give me an example of where religious beliefs contributed to scientific discovery in a positive way? I'm not aware of any such instances.
Technological development? What does that have anything to do with religion?? |
Scientific and Technological development go hand in hand. You can't impact one without impacting the other.
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@Disch Just because homosexuality is common doesn't mean it is not weird. |
I guess that depends on how you define "weird". I'm thinking you meant it as "abnormal". Given the rate of homosexuality and general sexual behaviors in humanity and nature, I would not call it abnormal.
But again it's all subjective. I don't think it's weird. And neither would you if you weren't raised to.
God says that homosexuality is evil. |
Deuteronomy says it's an abomination. It actually says that about a lot of things... including tattoos and piercings. But this goes back to "Is the Bible really the direct word of God or is it Man's interpretation?". I'm going to avoid commenting on this further, and I believe cire has already covered it significantly well. Until his point about the genesis contradiction is retorted I see no reason to discuss this further.
--- While I was typing this... superdude responded with his retort ---
I'll have to reread those parts of Genesis before commenting further. Or maybe cire can cover it? I would prefer it if he did, honestly, as this is a tangent to the original point I was trying to make (which I fear may be lost forever).
EDIT: forgot this one:
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Social development has crashed since the huge loosening of morals in society. |
Examples?
I think society has come a long way in terms of equality and the way we treat each other in general. We've certainly come a long way from treating women and people of color as property.